Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: Bayern, Tyskland

Family/Spouse: Ludvig II TYSKEREN. Ludvig (son of Ludvig I Den FROMME and Irmengard Av HESBAIN) was born about 0806; died in 876. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Karloman Av BAYERN was born about 810 in Bayern, Tyskland; died in 880.
2. Ludvig III was born about 830; and died.

Notes:

Fra Britannicus:

The origin of the "Elder House" of Welf is a matter of controversy, since Welf in the Carolingian period seems to have been rather widespread as a baptismal name. The first clearly discernible ancestor of the dynasty is the Count Welf who had poss essions in Bavaria in the first quarter of the 9th century and whose daughters Judith and Emma married, respectively, the Frankish emperor Louis I the Pious and the East Frankish king Louis the German. The best analyses of the evidence trace th e Burgundian and the Swabian Welfs to two nephews of Judith and Emma, namely Conrad (d. c. 876) and the so-numbered Welf I (d. before 876). Conrad's son Rudolf (d. 911 or 912) became king of Burgundy in 888, and this kingdom remained with his desc endants until 1032. Welf II (d. 1030), who was probably of the fifth generation from Welf I, had so strong a position in southern Germany that he and his son Welf III could occasionally defy the German kings

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