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Eirik Ormsson SMID

Eirik Ormsson SMID

Male Abt 1240 - 1287  (~ 47 years)

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  • Name Eirik Ormsson SMID  [1
    Birth Abt 1240 
    Gender Male 
    Death 1287 
    Notes 
    • Carl M. Gunderson authored a typewritten table of the "Ancestral Forefathers of Paal Eirikson and Asle Dugalson" which has the designation "Gunderson Ringen's Manuscript #320." This table includes ancestries taken from Snorre Sturlasson's "Heimskringla," some of which must be considered mythical. In this table, Dugal Ruaidhrison of Kintyre is purported to be the father of Asle Dugalsson, Gjertrude Dugalsdotter til Tomb and Eirik Dugalsson (father of Paal Eirikson). Even though Anders Stillof's name was used as the source of this information, it is clear from reading his published papers that he refuted the connection between Asle of Valdres and Dugal Ruaidhrison. Many members of the Valdres Samband were given this table and have taken Carl Gunderson's information as fact, whereas there is no known historical documentation (see above). To summarize -- there is no historical documentation to support a genealogical connection between the Kvåle farm of Valdres and ancient Viking nobility.

      It is very unlikely that Dugal Ruaidhrisson, Lord of Kintyre and underking of the Hebrides (born before 1249 and died 1268), was the father of Asle Dugalson and his siblings. This genealogical connection probably has its origin with G. Munthe's very speculative suggestion that Pål Eiriksųn's father might have been a son of Dugal Ruaidhrisson. See: Samlinger til det norske folks sprog og historie. See also the article by Anders Stilloff entitled "Omkring Store-Kvale i Vestre Slidre: Sigvat Andorsųns og ulvarna Jodgeirsdatters Efterslekt til 1600" in Tidskrift for Valdres Historielag, Vol. 12, pp. 65-92, 1934. Stilloff explains why Munthe's speculation must be incorrect.

      Recent Y-DNA results from a grandson of the immigrant Peder Iversen Kvåle, known in the United States as Peter Peterson, show that Eirik's brother Asle, his 16th great grandfather, did not have the same results as Somerled, from whom Dugal Ruaidhrisson is believed to have descended. Of course the historical paternal lineage between Asle and Peter Peterson remains to be determined by properly documentation. Somerled's Y-DNA had been determined earlier by Brian Sykes on the basis of analyses from many of his descendants in Scotland.

      According to Lars Lųberg, Gjartrud's patronymic has now been proven to be Omsdotter rather than Dugalsdotter. This was done by Are S. Gustavsen. Apparently the patronymic Dugal was assumed by genealogists because Eirik Dugalson was a candidate for the father of Pål Eiriksson.

      Gjartrud's Will:
      Diplomatarium Norvegicum (volumes I-XXI)
      Forrige brev i trykkrekkefųlge(b.2 nr.84)Neste brev i trykkrekkefųlge (b.2 nr.86)

      b.II s.73

      Sammendrag:
      Fru Jardtruds, Hr. Guttorm Gydusöns Enkes, Testamente, hvori hun skjęn-
      ker forskjelligt Jordegods og Penge til Oslos Kirker og Klostre til Non-
      neseter i Bergen, Ullenshofs, Svenes og Ulfnes Kirker samt til nogle navn-
      givne Personer.

      Kilde:
      Efter Orig. p. Perg. i Dipl. Arn. Magn. fasc. 58. No. 7. Seglene mangle.
      b.II s.74

      Nummer: 85.

      Dato: 8 Mai 1307. Sted: Oslo.

      Brevtekst (fra den trykte utgaven):
      In nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti amen. Ek Jaržrušr er herra Gudžormr Gyšu son atte. jatar ok gefuer heil ok osiuk sialuum guši til dyrdar ok vare fru sancte Marie ok ollum gušs helgum mannum til vyrdingar. ok mer til salohialpa ok synda aflausna. žetta mitt testamentum til Haluardz kirkiu i Aslo. tolf aura bol j b/oe/ žeim er Solberger heitir. ok (liggr) a Raumariki j Skaun j Sudreims kirkiu sokn. Jtem or sama b/oe/ til skrins hins helgha Haluardar. žriggia aura bol. jtem til Clemez kirkiu Nichulas kirkiu Kroskirkiu Lafranz kirkiu [si]tt /oe/yris bol huerri žeira. mer til artiša hals. or sama b/oe/. Jtem til Nun-
      nuseters j Aslo žriggia aura bol or samre eigh(n). Jtem til Hauuš/oe/yar. tueggia aura bol or r/oe/dastašum a Skieghvegh ok Morkana med sua mykit sem ek a žar j. Jtem til Marie kirkiu j Aslo sua mykit sem ek a j Malm/oe/y ok mork brenda. Jtem til Nunnuseters j Biorghuin mork brenda. Jtem til Vllinshofs kirkiu a Raumariki hefsęldo bol or b/oe/ žeim sem Geitastašr heita. firir saal Gudžorms mins ok minnar ok sira Paals. Jtem til Suenes kirkiu ok Vlfnes kirkiu a Ualdrese halfsmanaša mata bol huare žeira or b/oe/ žeim er Sualhella heitir ok liggr a Ualdrese. Jtem prestonom er syngia at fyrsagdum kirkium halfs manada mata bol huarom žeira en or sama b/oe/ mer til artiša hals med žui skilyrši at Paal Eriks son brošor son min skal l/oe/ysa bęše af prestonum ok af kirkiunum. Jtem systur Sigriši Potentiana mardskin min. Jtem Aso Hauaršar dotor frendbarne minu. til tolf marka forn(r)a ok halua sioar bud ža sem ek a uidr Eui(n)d sperribein. Jtem Žorde sueini minum alnauoš mina ok žat med er ek a j Diupa laghe. Jtem Aušuni brytia minum žat sem ek a j Skierlaghe. Jtem fat/oe/kom frendom minum a Ualdrese til tyttughu kua at skipta žeira millim med vitorde herra Asla brodor mins ok Paals brodorsonar mins ef žeir liua minu lifui lengr. žessom mannum hia verandom er ek gerde žetta mitt testamentum sira Symoni erkiprest meistare Žore sira Arna korsbr/oe/drom j Aslo. herra Azsore Jonssyni Paale logmanne Gudbrende milsan1 Paale Eiriks syni. ok til sanz vitnisburšar sette ek mit insigli ok fyrnefdir goder men sin insigli firir žetta bref er gort uar j Aslo siau nattom firir Haluardz m/oe/sso. ža lidnir varo fra buršar tid uars herra Jesu Christi .m. vettra. ok .ccc. hundrat uettra ok siau vettr a niunda are rikis mins uyršulegha herra Hakonar konongs hins koronaša Magnus sonar.

      1kan og lęses: nulsan.

      E-mail from Are S. Gustavsen:
      To the matter at hand: Lady Jartrud, or "fru Jartrud" as she has been mentioned until recently. The discovery of her patronymic was much of a coincidence. Some 5 years ago, in the winter of 2006, I had a longer telephone conversation with Mr. Jo Rune Ugulen. Mr. Ugulen was at the time in the final stages of completing his doctoral thesis on Norwegian Real Estate owners in parts of the old Gulating in medieval times, covering the modern counties of Hordaland and Sogn og Fjordane. Initially, dr. Ugulen had a question about a different Jartrud, of whom I had no new knowledge. But as I was checking the so-called "Akershusregisteret af 1622" (published 1916), I came across an entry of a certain "frue Giertrudt Ormszdotter" who had donated some land (6 hefseldebol) in a farm "Kierchehiem[b] paa Tho[e]den" to Hovedųya kloster (monastery), this in the 16th year of King Erik. The use of Akershusregisteret as a source for genealogical research (historical also, for that matter) poses quite a challenge. It is a letter registry containing brief summaries of some 2300 letters pertaining 4 medieval monasteries within the diocese of Oslo, and the two Danish gentlemen who made the register in 1622, were far from accurate in their transcribing work. However, the greatest challenge is to determine the correct date of the letters, while medieval letters often were dated by the year of the ruling king. Hence, the 16th year of king Erik may be 1295-96 if the letter is referring to king Erik Magnusson (1280-1299) or 1404-1405 if we are dealing with a letter made out during the reign of Erik of Pomerania (1397-1442). Many times we are unable to determine the exact year of issue, but in this case I found an entry of a supporting letter (actually two letters) dated 1315, in which Hovedųya kloster had traded the farm with the same name as the one (the aforementioned) fru Jartud had donated. My assessment of the totality of these entries, led to the conclusion that the donation made of fru Jartrud must have been made in 1295-96 in order for the monastery to be able to trade the same land in 1315. Dr. Ugulen did support my arguments and subsequently included a smaller discussion and a reference to the finding in his thesis. Follow this link to download the thesis: <http://ask.bibsys.no/ask/action/show?pid=070244472&kid=biblio>, even better try this one: <https://bora.uib.no/handle/1956/2108> The mention is found at page 125, footnote 240.
      As seen fru Jartrud proves to be a daughter of a man named Orm, consequently her brothers Erik and Asle may also have been sons of this very same Orm, provided that Jartrud were not solely a half sister sharing only the mother with Erik and Asle. Provided that at least Erik was an Ormsson, dr. Ugulen suggests a possible father to be one "Orm merkesmann", a high ranking nobleman only mentioned in 1276. I did plan to publish a minor article about this finding, but I have been otherwise engaged for a while. This spring I served my last term as the editor of Genealogen, which is, as you may know, the bi-annually distributed members magazine for Norsk Slektshistorisk Forening (Norwegian Genelogical Society). I do hope to do some more research on fru Jartud and the people that did surround her. So far I've only put forward a small 1-page ypothesis concerning Pål Erikssons wife and her family, linking a certain Pål Sigurdsson to Valdres and Sigrid Håreksdotter. (NST vol. 41).

      Thesis by Dr. Jo Rune Ugulen, p. 125, footnote 241:
      241. Jartrud, kona til Guttorm Gydason, er etter alt å dųma identisk med den fru Jartrud Ormsdotter som i 1295/96 gjev 6 hefseldebol i nordre garden i Kvem på Ųstre Toten til Hovedųya kloster (Akershusregisteret, s. 62, nr. 928). Dette er den einaste fru Jartrud vi kjenner frå denne tida, og sjųlv om det aktuelle brevet er dagsett i kong Eiriks 16. regjeringsår, kan det knapt vera tale om 1404/05 slik det også er foreslått i Akershusregisteret. I 1315 makeskiftar nemleg Hovedųya kloster bort garden Kvem på Toten mot Sundby i Jessheim på Romerike (Akershusregisteret, s. 82, nr. 1244-1245; RN III, nr. 944 og 945). Takk til Are S. Gustavsen som har gjort meg merksam på dette. Dette medfųrer igjen at far til Pål Eiriksson kan ha heitt Eirik Ormsson, og ein potensiell farfar vert då Orm merkesmann som opptrer i 1276 (DN II, nr. 16a; RN II, nr. 142; jf. IA, s. 334; Magnus Lagabųtes saga, i Norges kongesagaer, bd. 4, s. 361).
    Person ID I3929  Valdres Slekt
    Last Modified 27 Jul 2011 

    Family ID F19813  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Children 
     1. Smid Eirikson,   b. Abt 1260   d. Yes, date unknown
    +2. Pål Eirikson,   b. Aft 1260   d. Abt 1342, Storekvåle Vs Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 81 years)
    +3. Anders Eirikson,   b. Abt 1265   d. Yes, date unknown
     4. Guttorm Eirikson,   b. Abt 1270   d. Yes, date unknown
    Family ID F2078  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 6 Jan 2011 

  • Sources 
    1. [S357] Personal Correspondence, Lars L?berg, 20 Jul 2011, based on new information from Are S. Gustavsen regarding his sister Gjartrud's patronymic. (Reliability: 3).



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