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Orm

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  • Name Orm   [1
    Gender Male 
    Notes 
    • Carl M. Gunderson authored a typewritten table of the "Ancestral Forefathers of Paal Eirikson and Asle Dugalson" which has the designation "Gunderson Ringen's Manuscript #320." This table includes ancestries taken from Snorre Sturlasson's "Heimskringla," some of which must be considered mythical. In this table, Dugal Ruaidhrison of Kintyre is purported to be the father of Asle Dugalsson, Gjertrude Dugalsdotter til Tomb and Eirik Dugalsson (father of Paal Eirikson). Even though Anders Stillof's name was used as the source of this information, it is clear from reading his published papers that he refuted the connection between Asle of Valdres and Dugal Ruaidhrison. Many members of the Valdres Samband were given this table and have taken Carl Gunderson's information as fact, whereas there is no known historical documentation (see above). To summarize -- there is no historical documentation to support a genealogical connection between the Kvåle farm of Valdres and ancient Viking nobility.

      It is very unlikely that Dugal Ruaidhrisson, Lord of Kintyre and underking of the Hebrides (born before 1249 and died 1268), was the father of Asle Dugalson and his siblings. This genealogical connection probably has its origin with G. Munthe's very speculative suggestion that Pål Eiriksøn's father might have been a son of Dugal Ruaidhrisson. See: Samlinger til det norske folks sprog og historie. See also the article by Anders Stilloff entitled "Omkring Store-Kvale i Vestre Slidre: Sigvat Andorsøns og ulvarna Jodgeirsdatters Efterslekt til 1600" in Tidskrift for Valdres Historielag, Vol. 12, pp. 65-92, 1934. Stilloff explains why Munthe's speculation must be incorrect.

      Recent Y-DNA results from a grandson of the immigrant Peder Iversen Kvåle, known in the United States as Peter Peterson, show that Asle Dugalson, his 16th great grandfather, did not have the same results as Somerled, from whom Dugal Ruaidhrisson is believed to have descended. Somerled's Y-DNA had been determined earlier by Brian Sykes on the basis of analyses from many of his descendants in Scotland.

      The postulated connection between Dugal Ruaidhrisson and Gjartrud, Eirik, Asle and possibly Jon, was based on a conjecture that has since been disproven. In a recently-published thesis <https://bora.uib.no/handle/1956/2108>, Jo Rune Ugelen explains that their father was actually named Orm. Are S. Gustavsen was the person who found this information and it is found in footnote number 241 on page 125 of the thesis.
    Person ID I54326  Valdres Slekt
    Last Modified 27 Jul 2011 

  • Sources 
    1. [S357] Personal Correspondence, Lars L?berg, 20 Jul 2011, based on information from Are S. Gustavsen. (Reliability: 3).



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